maverick180
3:12 Wed Feb 7
Re: January Transfer Window
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Hard to know which site is correct
But even if that one is, it’s still considerably behind Villa
Which is not what we was promised
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Willtell
3:10 Wed Feb 7
Re: January Transfer Window
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maverick180
I don't want to fall out mate but you are talking nonsense. For a start we didn't make a profit as you say. We lost money last year.
This current year from June to end of May, we'll probably get back into profit. The owners of all football clubs have to make a profit to survive except a few Arab owned ones. The accounts include all income including Sky money.
It was published that the Osman transfer was halted by Sullivan on advice from an agent when Steidten, Moyes and Noble all wanted him.
Sullivan is the problem but not for the reasons you say.
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Nagel
3:07 Wed Feb 7
Re: January Transfer Window
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"our 5 year net spend is £110million behind Aston Villa’s"
You sure about that?
Football365, dated 2 weeks ago, has the 5 year net spend currently as Villa: £-312.8m; West Ham £-247.51m, and that's including the Rice sale, which as I said before, made a big difference to our average net spend.
https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city
I'm sure you can dig out some obscure site that backs you up though. Every site gives out different figures for this stuff. Fact is that since moving to the O/S we've spent way more than we used to, comparative to other clubs in the PL. We used to spend about the same as the clubs fighting relegation, now we're spending the same as those expecting to finish 6th-10th. Now, I'm sure there's some who think we should be spending the same as the Champions League clubs, but frankly they're deluded.
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maverick180
2:38 Wed Feb 7
Re: January Transfer Window
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It’s all about spin with Sullivan
All we’ve heard about this season are what great signings Kudus, Alvarez and Ward-Prowse have been
Yeah great, but what happened to the sky money and the money from the sales of other players?
Why haven’t we used it to sign a right back, left winger and a striker as well and had a real go this season
I don’t believe it has anything to do with FFP as other clubs that don’t bring in as much revenue as us are still outspending us
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maverick180
2:15 Wed Feb 7
Re: January Transfer Window
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It was ahead of them at that point
But now we’re going backwards when they’re going forwards
We made a huge profit in the summer
And we’ve just made a further profit last month
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fraser
2:12 Wed Feb 7
Re: January Transfer Window
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Villa out performed us massively last season and surely then our net spend was much bigger than theirs as we hadn't sold Rice yet and made a profit this season..
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Manuel
2:06 Wed Feb 7
Re: January Transfer Window
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It doesn't look good ref Osman, and no doubt there will be some words going on behind the scenes, the caveat is that we 'may' have dodged a bullet. A 20 mil punt by the looks of it.
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maverick180
2:00 Wed Feb 7
Re: January Transfer Window
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Nagel - our 5 year net spend is £110million behind Aston Villa’s
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ludo21
1:46 Wed Feb 7
Re: Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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Plenty more fish in the sea.... just a shame that some are fat and out of shape!
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Stevethehammer
1:36 Wed Feb 7
Re: Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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He was only Moyes's number one target as he thought it was Leon Osman coming out of retirement
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Lee Trundle
1:15 Wed Feb 7
Re: Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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He was Moyes's number 1 target, we were told.
And we've been beaten to him by Brighton.
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Stevethehammer
1:14 Wed Feb 7
Re: Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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Brighton agreeing a deal for Osman literally underpins the transfer business of this club. An utter fucking shambles.
Still he doesn't look that great statistically and they might have bought a complete dud, time will tell but for 19 million, definitely worth a punt.
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Lee Trundle
12:42 Wed Feb 7
Re: Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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hahaha - what an utter SHAMBLES our club is.
Still, at least we've got Phillips. hahaha
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Rossal
12:36 Wed Feb 7
Re: Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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Brighton have reached an agreement to sign Osman
€19.5M Medical completed ahead of move in the summer
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Nagel
8:47 Wed Feb 7
Re: Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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"We’re not competing financially with Aston Villa"
Well, we are really. Prior to last year, our 5 year net spend was more than Villa's. This year it's a bit less, but only because of the sale of Rice.
Where we're not competing with Villa is on the pitch, which is the manager's fault, and obviously Sullivan's to blame for choosing him and sticking by him, but that has very little to do with money.
As for not competing with the big boys, our 5 year net spend is still more than the current league leaders. It's not only about what you spend but how you spend it. Investing in the academy (which Sullivan thought was a waste of money initially) and buying players who can improve is how you make the best use of your financial resources, and Sullivan's been well behind the curve on that, although there have been signs of improvement in that area.
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maverick180
3:44 Wed Feb 7
Re: Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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Ok maybe crook was the wrong term
But the point is, everything he does is for his own benefit, not West Ham’s
And he’s entitled to do that
The reason I despise the bloke though is because he pretends that he’s some great saviour and we should be grateful for him
He has as much ambition as Terry Brown (another awful chairman)
But at least Brown used to keep his mouth shut and didn’t pretend to be something he wasn’t
Also it’s not a myth that Sullivan is tight
It just depends how you look at it
Compared to Brighton were big spenders
But we’re not competing financially with Aston Villa
The sale of Upton Park by Sullivan’s own mouth stated we’d be able to compete with the big boys
Instead we’re being left behind by Villa
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Willtell
1:26 Wed Feb 7
Re: Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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I don’t get the myth that Sullivan doesn’t spend nor that it’s to line his own pockets.
He does spend and we’re on record amounts too. Loads of it is wasted but that’s because Moyes has the final say contractually imo.
Sullivan is so out of touch with his customers though and really should be stepping aside but there’s nothing we can do about it except stop spending on tickets and clothing…
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Side of Ham
9:38 Tue Feb 6
Re: Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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Yorkhammer has shown why football and indeed West Ham is fucked as money has brought this type of attitude to a Sports Club with history long before he was born......fair enough if were mainly his own money but it isn't is it....
"He is the major shareholder so he does what he wants."
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BillyJenningsBoots
8:52 Tue Feb 6
Re: Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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Onsideman
Maverick180 was implying that Sullivan was not spending cos he was somehow theiving it from under the clubs nose which he isnt... I appreciate when he sells he will make a pretty packet and that his spending is to ensure we are not relegated and thus impacting our value... I know all of that... but thanks for explaining it - really appreciate it 🤣
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Sir Alf
1:23 Sun Feb 4
Re: Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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According to C&H ( hopefully not too bladdered )
Here are West Ham‘s winter window financials of the various transfer deals.
Outbound: Thilo Kehrer to Monaco on loan £428,000 loan fee with £9.41m option to buy. Pablo Fornals sold to Real Betis for £6.84m on a permanent basis. Said Benrahma to Lyon on loan for £5.1m loan fee plus £12.3m option to buy with 10% sell on clause. Total £12,358,000 plus £21,710,000 in options
Inbound: Kalvin Phillips on loan with no option to buy. Payment to Manchester City includes full £3m in wages until the end of June plus £2m-£4m in performance bonus paid to both the player and the parent club based on certain outcomes. Total £3m with £2m-£4m in performance-based bonuses.
Around £200,000 per week have been wiped off the West Ham wage bill after three departures in the January transfer window.
Thilo Kehrer is reported to have earned £80,000 per week, Pablo Fornals was reported to have been on £65,000 per week while Said Benrahma was reported to be earning £55,000 per week. The reduction will help cover Kalvin Phillips £135,000 per week wages plus loan fee to Man City
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Sir Alf
9:12 Sat Feb 3
Re: Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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Yeah we said that at the time iirc maverick
Took the fans to scare him to make him invest
Nowadays a comment about Sullivan’s big geezerbird wife will have you banned over there.
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